Monday, May 2, 2011

Hitler and Bin Laden Deaths Announced on May 1st - 66 Years Apart

Both promoted supremacist utopian ideologies ~ in which a lot of people were going to have to die to achieve their visions.

The death of most sought after terrorist in the world Osama Bin Laden was announced on the same date as the death of Nazi leader Adolf Hitler.

Hitler's death was announced to the public on May 1st, after he supposedly took his own life on April 30th, 1945. Hither's body was never recovered (the body believed to be Hitler's was exhumed by the Russians, it turned out to be the body of a female in her 20's.)

Bin Laden's death was also announced on May 1st. His body has still not been seen.

Bin Laden is Dead - Reaction - Photos

People waving U.S. flags cheer outside the White House over the death of Osama Bin Laden in Washington, May 2, 2011

A flower hangs from the side of a memorial site that lists the September 11th victims' names of the 344 Nassau County residents, who died in the World Trade Center and on Flight 93, in East Meadow, New York May 2, 2011. 

Flowers lay on the Garden of Remembrance May 2, 2011 in the Boston Public Garden in Boston, Massachusetts. Families of local victims of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks gathered at the 9/11 memorial to reflect upon the death of Osama Bin Laden.

A woman bows her head at the Garden of Remembrance May 2, 2011 in the Boston Public Garden in Boston, Massachusetts

Families of Massachusetts victims of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks place 206 white roses on the 9/11 memorial in the Boston Public Garden

PPeople gather in Times Square New York May 2, 2011 shortly after the announcement from the President Obama announced that Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden was dead and the United States has his body. Bin Laden was killed in a mansion close to Islamabad.

People react to the death of Osama bin Laden in Times Square in New York early May 2, 2011

A man walks carrying a American flag walks through Times Square New York May 2, 2011 the morning after US President Barack Obama announced that Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden was dead.

New York City firemen in Times Square New York May 2, 2011 shortly after the announcement..

People celebrate singing patriotic songs and chanting "USA, USA" after Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Ladenwas killed in Pakistan, during a spontaneous celebration in New York's Times Square, May 1, 2011.

N.J. man waves an American flag in New York's Times Square, Monday, May 2, 2011. 
People celebrate after Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was killed in Pakistan, during a spontaneous celebration in New York's Times Square, May 2, 2011

Newspaper front pages and United States flags left by visitors are seen at a temporary memorial on a hillside above the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site from the 9/11 attacks in Shanksville, Pennsylvania May 2, 2011.

A man takes a photo of a smiling young man next to the fence around the World Trade Center May, 2011 in New York covered with news clippings Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

A woman looks at Newspaper front pages announcing the death of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden May 2, 2011 in front of the Newseum in Washington, DC.

Larry Moore of East Freedom, Pennsylvania, writes a note on a sign that reads, "I did not forget," on a hillside above the United Airlines Flight 93 crash site from the 9/11 attacks in Shanksville, Pennsylvania May 2, 2011

Picture of the front covers of newspapers informing on the death of Osama bin Laden, taken at a newsstand in Rio de Janeiro on May 2, 2011

A supporter of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden shouts anti-American slogans, after hearing the news of his death, during a rally in Quetta May 2, 2011
Haniyeh condemned the United States on Monday for killing al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden, saying the operation marked "the continuation of the American oppression and shedding of blood of Muslims and Arabs."

Musharraf: Bin Laden mission violated Pakistan

Pakistan tourism minister
~ promoting Taliban-r-good message
Has Pakistan completely given up on normal sightseers.
It appears foreign fighters are the new tourists.

Welcome to Pakistan in any case!

Mr. Musharraf said the “lack of trust is very bad.”

Under President Pervez Musharraf ~ the Taliban were about to take an easy stroll onto Islamabad. One wonders if the world did not apply pressure on him to act ~ would these holy warriors been greeted with fresh cut flowers, as they had already reached 60 miles outside of the capital, in the end virtually unopposed by Pak military.

But there is growing talk about the money, as before the large international handouts to defeat this Taliban-terrorist-enemy ~ Musharraf was saying we already have Shari'a law anyway. And that there was no significant threat to the country. When he saw the money, it was ~ we are going to be taken over!! And the around the world tour began.

It is true that a large amount of Pakistani soldiers have died, but what also appears true that if no international pressure is applied, little or no effort would be made. The idea being if you stamp things out early, then there would not be the huge problem of Taliban taking complete control of whole regions ~ later!

Obviously they have a relationship with their hardliners that goes beyond waging war against India. It must be as some Pakistani officials/politicians have said, that this is an extension of their religion.

"Ulema (clerics) and Taliban are the true followers of Islamic ideology and America is the biggest terrorist of the world, which is creating hatred against them," Tourism Minister Maulana Attaur Rehman, whose Jamiat Uleme-e-Islam (JUI) party is a partner in the PPP-led government, told a public gathering in Mansehra in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province.[+]

Former Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf on Monday accused the U.S. of violating his country’s sovereignty by sending in special forces to kill Osama bin Laden.

“American troops coming across the border and taking action in one of our towns, that is Abbottabad, is not acceptable to the people of Pakistan. It is a violation of our sovereignty,” Mr. Musharraf told CNN-IBN, an Indian news channel.

He added that it would have been “far better if Pakistani Special Services Group had operated and conducted the mission. To that extent, the modality of handling it and executing the operation is not correct.”

Bin Laden was killed Sunday in a firefight with Navy SEALs in a million-dollar, fortified compound located in an affluent neighborhood in Abbottabad, about a two-hour drive from Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad.

Senior U.S. officials, who briefed reporters early Monday, said the Obama administration did not inform Pakistani authorities of the mission until after it was concluded.

Mr. Musharraf said the “lack of trust is very bad.”

“If two organizations [are] conducting an operation against a common enemy, there has to be trust and confidence in each other,” he said.

Pakistan is “totally on board” on fighting al Qaeda and Taliban.

Mr. Musharraf said it was possible that some local Pakistanis had colluded with bin Laden.

“A battle has been won, but the war continues,” Mr. Musharraf said, warning that “al Qaeda is still there.”

WikiLeaks: Osama bin Laden 'protected' by Pakistani security

Pakistani army soldiers secure the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed in Abbottabad, north west Pakistan

“In Pakistan, Osama Bin Laden wasn’t an invisible man, and many knew his whereabouts in North Waziristan, but whenever security forces attempted a raid on his hideouts, the enemy received warning of their approach from sources in the security forces.”

Intelligence gathered from detainees at Guantanamo Bay may also have made the Americans wary of sharing their operational plans with the Pakistani government.

The Pakistanis supported the Taliban even as they were shooting women in the head, for reading a book or what other ludicrous crimes a women could now commit in this new Islamic state of Afghanistan. Clearly the Pakistanis, both then as now, were lured by the attraction of the puritanical Islamic state. Hiding Bin Laden, was likely one of the ways of expressing this.

The coincidences are mounting up for Pakistan ~ remember the Red Mosque ~ teenage girls, ready for martyrdom, sent out onto Islamabad streets with sticks, to enforce Islamic law. It was only after these burqa-ed babes took a Chinese national hostage, and an international incident developed that something was done to bring the mosque and its schools under control. Inside of the mosque there was every type of weapon, from grenades to anti-tank mines ~ was also strangely situated opposite the ministry of defence building in Islamabad.

American diplomats were told that one of the key reasons why they had failed to find bin Laden was that Pakistan’s security services tipped him off whenever US troops approached.

Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISID) also allegedly smuggled al-Qaeda terrorists through airport security to help them avoid capture and sent a unit into Afghanistan to fight alongside the Taliban.

The claims, made in leaked US government files obtained by Wikileaks, will add to questions over Pakistan’s capacity to fight al-Qaeda.

Last year, David Cameron caused a diplomatic furore when he told Pakistan that it could not “look both ways” on terrorism. The Pakistani government issued a strongly-worded rebuttal.

But bin Laden was eventually tracked down and killed in compound located just a few hundred yards from Pakistan’s prestigious military academy in Abbotabad.

The raid by elite US troops was kept secret from the government of Pakistan. Only a tight circle within the Obama Administration knew of the operation.

In December 2009, the government of Tajikistan warned the United States that efforts to catch bin Laden were being thwarted by corrupt Pakistani spies.

According to a US diplomatic dispatch, General Abdullo Sadulloevich Nazarov, a senior Tajik counterterrorism official, told the Americans that “many” inside Pakistan knew where bin Laden was.

The document stated: “In Pakistan, Osama Bin Laden wasn’t an invisible man, and many knew his whereabouts in North Waziristan, but whenever security forces attempted a raid on his hideouts, the enemy received warning of their approach from sources in the security forces.”

Intelligence gathered from detainees at Guantanamo Bay may also have made the Americans wary of sharing their operational plans with the Pakistani government.

One detainee, Saber Lal Melma, an Afghan whom the US described as a probable facilitator for al-Qaeda, allegedly worked with the ISID to help members flee Afghanistan after the American bombing began in October 2001.

His US military Guantanamo Bay detainee file, obtained by Wikileaks and seen by The Daily Telegraph, claims he allegedly passed the al-Qaeda Arabs to Pakistani security forces who then smuggled them across the border into Pakistan.

He was also overheard “bragging about a time when the ISID sent a military unit into Afghanistan, posing as civilians to fight along side the Taliban against US forces”.

He also allegedly detailed “ISID's protection of Al-Qaida members at Pakistan airports. The ISID members diverted Al-Qaida members through unofficial channels to avoid detection from officials in search of terrorists,” the file claims.

Sabar Lal Melma's Guantanamo detainee file


Pakistan harbored Osama bin Laden for 6 years

Now that the news of Osama bin Laden's death is starting to get stale, it will certainly be fascinating in the next week or two to watch how the Pakistani government squirms out of this one: it is apparent to absolutely anyone with half a brain that the compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan where Osama bin Laden lived since it was constructed in 2005 was at least in part built,  funded, maintained and secured by the Pakistani government.

No other conclusion can be drawn. 

This facility was within 100 yards of Pakistan's version of West Point.  It was ten times the size of all of the other structures within this community, and had the security of Fort Knox.  Most of the neighbors were aware that a person of significant stature lived within these 18 foot walls for the past six years, and to think that the Pakistani government was completely unaware of its inhabitant's identification really stretches their credibility when they deny knowledge of the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden.

If you recall, the Bush Doctrine defined our enemies after 9/11 as those who committed the atrocities of that terrible day, and that we would not distinguish between these foul enemies and those who harbored them.  The Pakistani government, to include former president Perves Musharref, and current president Asif Ali Zardari were complicit in the harboring of Osama bin Laden for six long years.

Now we know on which side of the fence Pakistan's loyalty lies: with the terrorists.  Pakistan should now be cut off immediately from U.S. foreign aid, no trade between the U.S. and Pakistan should be allowed, and no travel by U.S. citizens to this enemy state should be authorized by the Department of State.  This is the law of the land, and President Obama should follow through with this logical process.

Pakistan is a nuclear armed rogue state, and the danger it poses to the U.S. and its interests as well as world stability are enormous.  The proof of this is sitting right in front of all of our noses: Pakistan is not our friend.

Map of Where Osama bin Laden Was Killed

In August 2010, American intelligence officials tracked Osama bin Laden to Abbottabad, Pakistan, a medium-sized city about an hour’s drive north of Islamabad, the capital.

NY Times

India says Pakistan shown as terror 'sanctuary' - Bin Laden found just 200 meters from main military acedemy

He said, “He was killed in Pakistan, almost in the backyard of its capital, Islamabad. This is the final confirmation of the hard fact that Pakistan remains the epicentre of global terror where terrorism and terrorists both are allowed to be encouraged and given shelter.”

NEW DELHI —(AFP) India on Monday used the death of Osama bin Laden to denounce rival Pakistan as a terrorist "sanctuary," as it renewed calls for Islamabad to arrest suspects behind the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Home Minister P. Chidambaram said India noted with "grave concern" that bin Laden had been found hiding in a palatial villa less than two hours' drive from the Pakistani capital Islamabad.

"This fact underlines our concern that terrorists belonging to different organisations find sanctuary in Pakistan," Chidambaram said as Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh urged Islamabad to take action against militants.

Bin Laden's compound 's proximity to Pak Military Academy 

"The international community and Pakistan in particular must work comprehensively to end the activities of all such groups who threaten civilised behaviour and kill innocent men, women and children," Singh said.

The premier said he hoped bin Laden's killing would deal a "decisive blow to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups."

India accuses Pakistan of providing shelter and support to militant groups planning attacks on Indian soil and has repeatedly pushed the global community -- the United States in particular -- to censure Pakistan accordingly.

US President Barack Obama said the operation to kill bin Laden was the result of cooperation with Pakistan, but US officials admitted that they had not informed Islamabad before the strike by US forces.

Home Minister Chidambaram focused on India's belief that perpetrators of the 2008 Mumbai attacks continue to be sheltered in Pakistan.

"We once again call upon the government of Pakistan to arrest the persons whose names have been handed over," he said.

India says the 10 gunmen who attacked multiple targets in Mumbai, killing 166 people, were members of the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group.

India suspended peace talks with its long-time South Asian rival after the attacks.

That dialogue was recently resumed, but India has continued to criticise Pakistan for not doing enough to bring the organisers to justice.

Nuclear-armed India and Pakistan have fought three wars since attaining their independence in 1947, two over the disputed territory of Kashmir.

In a separate statement, Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna said the US success in killing bin Laden was an "historic development and victorious milestone" in the global war on terror.

But, in another clear reference to Pakistan, he also stressed the need to root out militant safe havens in South Asia.

"The world must not let down its united effort to overcome terrorism and eliminate the safe havens and sanctuaries that have been provided to terrorists in our own neighbourhood," he said.

The same message was hammered home by Defence Minister A.K. Antony, who said Pakistan had a long history of denying evidence that it was aiding and abetting militant groups.

"This incident establishes that Pakistan has been sheltering terrorists and now the country must take steps against them," he told reporters after visiting a military post in the desert region of Jaisalmer bordering Pakistan.

Lalit Mansingh, a former ambassador to the United States, said he believed Obama's mention of Pakistani cooperation was aimed at deflecting any criticism that the US special operation may have infringed Pakistani sovereignty.

"The fact is that Pakistan is going to have to answer some uncomfortable questions arising from this, not least of which is how bin Laden was able to hide so close to Islamabad for so long," Mansingh told AFP.

"One suspects he must have had some help from figures in the Pakistani establishment," he added.

Pakistan remains epicentre of global terror

Terming the elimination of Osama bin Laden as a confirmation that Pakistan remains the “epicentre of global terror”, the Bharatiya Janata Party on Monday said India must ensure that those responsible for the 26/11 terrorist attacks must be handed over to it.

While Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha, Sushma Swaraj, in her tweet called bin Laden “humanity’s enemy number one”, BJP spokesperson Ravi Shankar Prasad said he (Laden) was the most visible and dangerous face of global jihadi terror.

“We demand that all the terrorists responsible for terror attacks from across the border must be handed over to India.

It is a litmus test for Pakistan. Government of India must acknowledge this fact in all future talks with Pakistan,” Mr. Prasad said.

He said, “He was killed in Pakistan, almost in the backyard of its capital, Islamabad. This is the final confirmation of the hard fact that Pakistan remains the epicentre of global terror where terrorism and terrorists both are allowed to be encouraged and given shelter.”

He further said that India is entitled to insist that perpetrators of 26/11 Mumbai attack must be handed over.

“We have been saying that Pakistan gives shelter to terrorists to attack India. Those who conspired in the Mumbai attack are still in safe sanctuaries...Pakistan government has stopped taking any action against them,” said Mr. Prasad.

The Hindu

Pakistani Taliban threatens to target gov. and military after bin Laden’s killing

DERA ISMAIL KHAN: The Pakistani Taliban threatened attacks against government leaders, including President Asif Ali Zardari, the Pakistan army and the United States on Monday, after the killing of Osama bin Laden in the country.

“Now Pakistani rulers, President Zardari and the army will be our first targets. America will be our second target,” Ehsanullah Ehsan, a spokesman for Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), or Taliban Movement of Pakistan, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location. Reuters

Abbottabad, a place where Osama bin Laden was killed

I met Osama bin Laden in early 1996 in Laghman province in Afghanistan.

This tall, and quite handsome man seemed a serious and likeable man. As is the Afghan tradition, when a foreigner is in an area, he called me over to his table in a small, dirty tea shop to join him for tea. He asked me what I had been doing and I told him that I had been into the mountains of Nuristan with my Afghan Red Crescent colleagues where we were building a clinic, two days walk from the road. I said women die in child birth because they don't even have basic facilities and now we have trained doctor and nurse. He congratulated us. I didn't know much about this man, but he left an impression on me. Little was I to know his future doings.

But some years later I got to know more about this man.

11 September 2001, Ferney Voltaire, France (Quote from my diary)

I've just come back from a walk past soft yellow corn fields with the the Jura mountains as a backdrop and Mont Blanc on the other side of the path.

I'm hurting today because it seems Ahmed Shah Massoud is either dead or dying. Some say it could be the work of Osama bin Laden. I think of the times we met during my stay in Afghanistan between 93 and 96, and the hour interview I had with him before I left in August 1996. My friend Azem was killed too and Massood Khalili badly injured, the Ambassador to India and son of the great Afghan poet.

Meeting with Ahmed Shah Massoud in Kabul, in 1996.

My heart bleeds for you Afghanistan; the pain and hurt you've been through. Penalised by your geographic location and the pawn of superpowers.

During the day in the workshop in Ferney-Voltaire. my mind kept going back to Ahmed Shah Massoud and his senseless killing by hired killers posing as cameramen. Just before 4 pm, we broke for afternoon tea. As I picked up a cup of tea, the ,manager came running and shouting in French, something about a disaster in America. A group formed at the TV in the bar and watched an interviewer talking about a plane hitting the World trade Tower, then seconds later we saw the most spine-chilling metal and human bomb plough into the second tower.


Massoud gone, many thousand of lives lost in the four plane hijacks......

The scenarios began tio build up in my mind; retaliations on Afghanistan yet again. Alexander the Great, Arabs, The Turks, Chengis Khan, Timur, Persians, The British x 3, Soviet Union and now a US led western coalition.

Today Osama bin Laden was killed in Abbottabad, which I recall after many visits beween 1994 and 2006, as a peaceful place, named after home to at least one regiment of the Pakistani army, is dotted with military buildings and home to thousands of army personnel. Surrounded by hills and with mountains in the distance, it is less than half a day's drive from the border region with Afghanistan.

On the outskirts of Abbottabad, en route to the high Karakoram ranges

Where did the name Abbottabad come from?

Although, Abbottabad today is a thriving business and tourism city, it is traditionally a military city. Besides the prestigious Pakistan Military Academy (PMA) in a nearby village of Kakul, Abbottabad is home to three regimental centres of Pakistan Army and Army School of Music. The PMA provided fame to Abbottabad for many years, prior to the recent development of the city, from a non-industrial backward area, to a busy modern business, economic and academic centre. The city takes it roots from the British India, when Major James Abbott came this way in 1853 after the annexation of Punjab into the British dominion and laid the foundation of a military cantonment. He also became the first Deputy Commissioner of Hazara Division. By 1901 the population of the town and cantonment had grown to around 7,764, which today stands at 300,000. Abbottabad remained the dominating district till 1976, when one of its tehsils Mansehra was given the status of district, which now consist of Mansehra and Batagram Tehsils. Subsequently in July 1991, Haripur Tehsil was separated from Abbottabad and made district. Thus only the Tehsil Abbottabad remained, which was declared as district. Major Abbott was so mesmerized by the beauty of the area that when leaving Abbottabad with a nostalgia a, he wrote a poem expressing his love and affection for the place he founded.

What a quirkof fate.

If you want to read a more complete story on my meeting with Osama bin Laden check this link.Osama bin Laden

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